I went out with a small group of friends recently. There were four of us. We hadn’t seen each other for a while so we had plenty of news to share. I did quite a lot talking. It went quite well really. I was more relaxed than I normally am, now they know I’m autistic they are more forgiving of my little idiosyncrasies and I’m not so anxious about keeping up my normal act.
I hadn’t seen one girl for nearly four years so I had a lot to share and I became conscious I was doing a lot fo the talking. The thing is, it’s thin line for an autistic person; saying too much or saying too little. I think for NT people it’s a very wide line, saying a few lines three or four times maybe okay in some situations, talking for half an hour maybe okay in others. Each situation is unique and there are very few rules which can guide you.
I used to see conversation as a bit like tennis; you say something and the other person returns it to you with a different take on it. The only difference I guess is that you want the other person to be able to hit the ball so you don‘t say anything too obtuse. I knew conversation should be a two way process, so I imagined a process where one person says something, then the other person takes that idea and sees what ideas this gives them. And so the original idea grows and changes until there is some kind of satisfactory conclusion and the subject can change.
I began to realise how inadequate this model was when I took some screenwriting modules at university. My tutor told me my dialogue was very ’back and forth’. I knew then, for the first time, that I was doing something wrong. But I didn’t know what and my NT friends were too polite to point it out (I didn’t know at that point that I was autistic).
The thing I liked about my model was that both people spoke for roughly the same amount of time so you didn’t have that dilemma of deciding how long you should speak for. I never managed to figure out a model that worked for groups. Probably this is why I preferred to deal with people on a one to one basis. I get very anxious in groups.
Despite my best efforts I could never make my model of conversation work in reality, and somehow this didn't make me realise my model was wrong. NT people don’t work to a set of defined rules. So whenever I would start talking about a subject (which I may or may not have introduced), people either disagreed or said something I disagreed with or they would say nothing and I’d end up talking until I stopped myself or someone butted in.
I can see now that the model I had built was actually just a replica of the kind of conversations I have with myself. Whenever I was writing a script or a short story, the conversations I created between characters were really conversations with myself. What I wasn’t doing was imaging two different people, and what their agendas might be, their interests, their personalities. I wasn’t imagining what their emotional reactions might be. I wasn’t, not doing it because I didn’t want to but because I couldn’t.
For an autistic person conversation is either about being a listener or a talker. As the subject changes you change roles. Conversation is usually about communication of information rather than two people interacting emotionally. Because you I'm not very good at the emotional thing I rely very heavily on having a good store of knowledge and funny stories to entertain people with. But this over compensation can get you into trouble.
Talking too much is misinterpreted by my NT friends as a lack of interest in what they think. This isn’t true, because I spend most of my time studying my friends and trying to act like them. I’m talking because I know they want me to talk. If I don't talk they think I'm ignoring them. My lectures are really intended as a gift. It’s the only gift I have to give them. It’s the only way I know how to talk to them. And I want to give them a lot, because I know I can’t bond with them in the way they want me to.
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